HMS Neptune (BB-1911)
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First Royal Navy battleship with a superfiring turret. The
lozenge arrangement meant that it was possible for the side mounted turrets to
be able to fire to both sides. When the centre turrets were fired across the
ship, the blast effects ripped up the wooden deck and blew it over the side. Class of 5 with 3 Royal Navy and 2 Australis Navy
ships. All 5 remained in service in training and other ancillary duties, the
Australis ships being made into Area Defence Vessels, two RN ships as training
ships the last as a training aircraft carrier. All of the conversions had one
thing in common. They were to reduce the ships to the point where the
Washington/Geneva Treaties did not recognise them as battleships. Thus they
would not count against the allowable amount of battleship tonnage/numbers. The
same applied to the Neptune.
As training ships the RN vessels were given different
supperstructure that mimicked the types of vessels seaman and officers would be
trained for. These conversions were of the most modern ships being built for the
RN at the time. Majestic Class, Cornwall class. The fore and aft 12" were kept
with a range of 5.5", 6", 4" and the modern 2pd AA guns. Aircraft handling
facilities were added (where possible) to the training ships during the 1930's.
The training ships were often used as heavy escorts to the faster 12-15
knot convoys that normally carried more important material from Nova Scotia to
Liverpool. The aircraft carried were of great use on milder days when they could
be launched and recovered without putting the ship at risk. In the darkest days
of the Atlantic with no aircraft carriers and before the escort carriers were
available, two Hurricanes were loaded aboard and were one shot fighters sent
after the Condors that tracked the convoys.
The Hercules and Colussus replaced the old armoured cruisers of the County type
in the training ship role. These were the ocean going training ships. There
normal round trip would take them across the Atlantic into the Caribbean Sea
visiting the Commonwealth Islands. Three trips a year plus coastal trips in
between gave the cadets a good grounding in sea conditions. Having the ships
look like modern ships did pay dividends on occasion. Once when a German cruiser
was looking to attack a convoy the Hercules was escorting, the cruiser took the
Hercules to be a Majestic class and took off.
While the Neptune had been considered the weakest of the three RN conversions,
by 1930 it was the most valuable. While only able to carry up to a dozen
aircraft of its own, these aircraft were split into six bomber and six fighter
aircraft for self protection. It was as the fleets Training Carrier that the
Neptune was so valuable. Most of the pilots that fought in WW2 or commanded
aircraft carriers of their own had probably done their landing training aboard
HMS Neptune. Neptune was also used for training mechanics to service aircraft at
sea. From the basic conversion completed in 1924, further and further additions
and new equipment was added. An extra elevator/lift was added, AA guns, a bridge
superstructure, HACS to control the 4" AA, 4x2pd AA, arrester wires, upgraded
wireless/aerial configuration and many more minor details. The 11" and other
side/belt armour was removed and the deck armour was kept.
The whole thought behind the Area Defence Vessels was to be able to park the
ship in a lagoon of some island and the ship would provide the defence of the
area. The ship would also be able to act as a mothership for the big flying boat
squadrons (Catalinas, Sunderlands) while air support around the area could be
provided by the ships own half dozen seaplanes. Like the RN's training ships,
during the early part of WW2, the ADV's spent a lot of their time at sea as
convoy escorts. These two ships were very important in the Indian Ocean when
Australis and Zealandia were sending their troopships through to the Western
Desert theater. Having aircraft buzzing around the convoy meant there would be
no unwelcome surprises from enemy shipping.
Displacement | 20,000 tons std, 23,500 tons full load | |||
Length | 566 ft | |||
Breadth | 85 ft | |||
Draught | 26.3 ft | |||
Machinery | 4 shaft , steam turbines, 25,000shp | |||
Speed | 22 knots | |||
Range | 6000 miles at 12 knots | |||
Armour | 11" side, 2" deck, 11" turrets. (belt removed on Neptune and ADV's reduced to 3") | |||
Armament | Neptune (as CVE) 6 x 4" (6x1) 4 x 2pd (4x1) from 1940 8 x 20mm (4x2) |
Colussus (as TS) 6 x 12 (3x2) 4 x 6" (4x1) 6 x 4" (6x1) 4 x 2pd (4x1) |
Hercules (as TS) 6 x 12" (3x2) 10 x 5.5" (10x1) 6 x 4" (6x1) 16 x 2pd (4x4) |
Auckland (as ADV) 4 x 12" (2x2) 4 x 4" (4x1) 8 x 2pd (2x4) |
Aircraft | 12 | 2 to 3 | 2 to 3 | 6 |
Torpedoes | nil | 6 x 21" (2x3) | nil | nil |
Complement | 905 (with aircrew) | 780 (815 as flagship) | 800 (830 as Flagship) | 750 |
Notes | HMS Neptune 01/1911 HMS Colussus 07/1911 HMS Hercules 08/1911 HMAS Auckland 10/1912 HMAS Gascoyne 01/1913 |
Above: HMS Hercules ready to anchor. Below: Foredeck, turret and bridge superstructure of Hercules
Side view of Colussus class: Note the Dreadnought clones in the background.
Old drawings of the three Neptune/Colossus class battleships.